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catchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchch catch more "young turks" at theyoungturks.com. viewpoint is next. >> john: good evening, i'm john fuglesang. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i guess some good things are worth waiting for. we won't know until wednesday what president obama plans to propose to stem the epidemic of gun violence in this country. white house press secretary jay carney apparently doesn't want to spoil the surprise. >> i will not get ahead of the president in terms of what his package of proposals will include. i will simply note that the president has made clear he intends to take a comprehensive approach. >> john: once again as has happened so often republicans are terrified of barack obama's package. we do have some idea of what's going to come from the white house included in that comprehensive approach. some or all of 19 measures identified by vice president's biden's working group that the president could order without having to go through congress such as sharing gun databases giving the centers for disease control the authority to do national research on guns and aggressivively enforce
barack obama. i'm jennifer granholm joined in new york by john fuglesang, host of "viewpoint." >> good morning. >> jennifer: current political analyst michael shure is joining us from portland, oregon, of all places. we'll also have bill press and david shuster reporting for us from washington, d.c. they're on the ground and also have today current contributor michael hastings, the author of "panic 2012, the sublime and terrifying story of obama's campaign." we'll talk about that a little bit as well. so excited you guys. this is the best of what america has to offer in terms of pomp and circumstance and marking a point in history. do you not agree? do you love this? >> john: i couldn't agree more. it is a pleasure to be here as a contributor to this network which has spent so much time covering this campaign but also of history. i love inauguration day because it really -- it is the one day that brings the past and future completely together. we're following the most contentious, most expensive presidential campaign in history. and there's so much to talk about in terms of the past an
money. here now tyler mathisen and john harbaugh. >> good morning, everybody, and welcome to cnbc's coverage of the second inauguration of barack obama. the 57th inaugural of an american president. between a half a million and 800,000 people are estimated to attend today's festivities. most of them not very close to the capitol where the swearing in will take place. that's roughly a third of the number who attended president obama's first inauguration four years ago. once again welcome, everybody. i'm tyler mathisen joined by cnbc's chief washington correspondent john harwood. great to be with you on this day of history. >> welcome to d.c. >> good to see you. the oath of office will take place in about 50 minutes, but today, of course, is all about the ceremony. you probably know this already, yesterday chief justice john roberts officially administered the oath in a small, private ceremony in the blue room at the white house as per the constitution. >> this morning the president and the vice president attended church services with their families at st. john's church, an inaugurat
york times," al hunt of bloomberg, mark halperin of "time" and john dickerson of slate and cbs news. >> he talked about seneca falls, he talked about selma, he talked about stonewall. these the historical touchstones far president speaking to a new generation-- a generation he thinks gratified his vision of the world in this election in whh he did well with minorities and younger voters and so to the extent that his second election ratified the new obama coalition and the new shape of the electorate he so too hopes his second term will speak to that. >> rose: we conclude this evening with part one of a two-part conversation about the presidency of barack obama and the next four years joined by doris kearns goodwin, jon meacham, bob woodward, bob caro, and michael beschloss. >> i know it's the consensus that we're -- barack obama has to do is get along with the republicans. i'd like to say something about that. president obama is fond of quoting-- and if he isn't, i am-- martin luther king's statement "the moral arc of the universe bends slowly but it bends towards justice." in the f
justice john roberts, jr. the public swearing-in and all the pomp and circumstance that go with it were put off until today and what a day it is. the temperature right now is in the high 30s. the sky is clear, a brilliant winter's day in the nation's capital. people are pouring into the national mall to witness a day of history. the first family began the day by attending services at st. john's church. that's right across the street from the white house. that's a long-standing tradition for presidents on inauguration day. joining me now in our cbs coverage is bob schieffer, our chief washington correspondent and anchor of ""face the nation."" bob, what are you expecting to see? >> well, it's going to be an important day for the nation, but i must say, you know, the fiscal cliff negotiations, the slaughter of those children in connecticut made it difficult for washington to be festive this time around. it's also a very unusual atmosphere because of this gridlock. i mean, you're not hearing people talk about hope and renewal this time around, but is the government broken? the whole system
washington, d.c. al hunt of bloomberg, jodi kantor of the "new york times," john dickerson of "slate" and cbs news. here in new york, mark halperin of "time" magazine. al, let me start with you. before we talk about the speech, just talk about the ambience of this inauguration. >> these are wonderful weekends. this is a long weekend. whether it's republican or democrat people who come are in a great mood of celebration, they're walking the streets. i love inaugural weekends. i think they're fabulous. not as big as it was last time but i think it was -- in many ways i thought there would be a little of a down tick but just walking around the streets a bit today that didn't appear to be the case. of course all the fancy parties but there are a lot of just real people who don't go to fancy parties so i love this weekend. >> rose: john dickerson you were there for cbs with a front-row seat. what did it seem like for you? >> bright and early people were out there. long before the sun was up the president was walking down the parade the route they were 15 people deep. it was a nice antidote to what
-span's q&a. >> in 2009, president obama attended a service at st. john's applicable church from across the white house. and they went to the capital for the health and inaugural address. here is a look from the activities of 2009 carried . [applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen. the chief justice of the united states and the associate justices of the supreme court of the united states. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, mr. william m daley, mr. john w rogers junior, mr. patrick g ryan -- cochairs of the 56th presidential inaugural committee. and the executive director of the 56 presidential inaugural committee. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president elect cabinet. >> you are my hero. >> thank you. >> inks for taking care of those people from indiana. -- thanks for taking care of .hose people from indiana >> ladies and gentlemen, please ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, former vice president walter mondale, former vice president al gore, accompanied by mrs. gore. and former vice president dan quayle. >> ladies
and in the next hour john nichols from the nation magazine will be in as a friend of bills. we get back to schools and guns but first, the headlines. >> check headlines with the news on this friday, a crash and burn for the start of american idol. the fox show's 12th premier saw its lowest viewership ever 18 million people tuned in, which is down 19% from last year's premier according to entertainment weekly and last year was the lowest ever opening before this week. as high as those 18 million viewers sounds, it's not even the most watched show this week. ncis, tuesday night on the cbs had 23 million viewers. >> it's over. pull the plug. >> correct me if i am wrong. these are the usually the ones with the highest rate the first ones. >> especially the premiere because they hype it for two months. >> i didn't watch. >> downhill fast. >> i did. >> you watched? >> i did. i have been a huge fan. >> from the beginning? >> yes. >> you still are. >> oh, my gosh. you like the new format? the new judges? >> the whole kind of cat fight thing put me off a little bit
yesterday. >> i barack hussein obama swear -- >> supreme court justice john roberts swore in the first family. justice sotomayor did the honor at the vice president's residence at the united states naval observe tore in washington. >> and both families attended a church service at the episcopal church directly opposite the white house. moments ago the limousine carrying the obamas and the bidens arrived at the capital after the 12 block trip up pennsylvania avenue from the white house. >> joining us, our news hour regular column younist mark shields and new york sometimes columnist mark brooks. >> big day, gwen. it is a big day. it lacks the inherent drama and expense of the new first inaugural. this is important. i think it's a defining moment for the second inaugural, the president at the top of his popularity over the past three years and this is a chance to lay out what he wants to do, i think, in broad terms and specifically of course in the the state of the union. >> what do you say about the second inaugural? >> it's a ritual. there's a lot of celebrities in the crowd. i learned
of john brennan it to be defense secretary appeared next is a call to is watching us. caller: i just wanted to call and get my comments on today's ceremony. it is very moving. i did not vote for mr. obama. i hope he surrounds himself with people that we give him counsel. he was hoping we would come together, works for the next four years. the most moving part was beyonce's singing of the national anthem. i hope we can go forward as one nation. >> she writes the benediction is lovely but what about separation of church and state? next is a call from santiago. i thought president obama's speech was really good. agree with james taylor and beyonce. their performances were great. he did not talk about bipartisanship and he should have. host: the speech was clocked in at just over 18 minutes. next is a call from gary. caller: thank you for letting me call. i was very impressed with its. it is a good day for us all to come together. it is a very special shout out you were finishing the national anthem. they started ripping the president's, his agenda, his speech. this is fairly biased news
is demeaning in the way he deals with house speaker john boehner. hold on, says columnist rockman. we expect too much of obama he says because in the united states, we subscribe to the quote, unquote myth of the imperial presidency. other transformational democratic presidents such as fdr and lbj, rockman says, have substantial democratic majorities in both the senate and in the house to enact their landmark legislation. obama in contrast has had to work with a narrow democratic majority in the senate and with an opposition party, the republicans in control of the house for the two years since january 2011. well, what about ronald reagan? president of the united states two successful four-year terms. on the domestic front, he enacted a major economic recovery package followed by an overhaul of social security. and in his second term, reagan gained a major tax reform. on the defense front, republican president reagan again with the help of the rity presided over a major increase in the defense budget, congress presided over a major increase in the defense budget, the defe including straby mil
the start of his second term in prayer. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is outside st. john's church. that's right near the white house. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is on the national mall. brianna, let's go to you first. tell us what's going on. what is about to happen? >> reporter: hi there, wolf. i am across from the church where president obama and mrs. obama are inside sitting, not in the traditional president's pew, but in the first row, as is the vice president and his family, and i want to show you, if this bus will move behind me, you can see over here the presidential limousine, the beast. once this service is over and we are told that it will be short and sweet, the beast is standing ready to whisk president obama and mrs. obama off to the capitol. >> brianna, thank you. let's go to jessica yellin. jessica, i understand you're learning some details about what the president will say. >> reporter: one insider insisted to me, wolf, that there is no challenge to be met today, no political test, but president obama considers this speech deeply me
.c., starting at 6:00. and president obama will attend church service that morning at 8:45 at st. john's church. he will have a closed meeting with congress. in terms of how you can follow along with what is happening on the big day on monday, i will anchor our coverage here at 10:00, with chris matthews, the reverend al sharpton, our coverage starting at 10:00, and vooi vice president joe biden will are sworn in, at 11:55, president obama will be sworn in by chief justice john roberts, and the president will deliver his second inaugural address. there will be the singing of the national anthem, then by a person named beyonce who you may have heard of. there will be the signing ceremony, and of course, the parade. there is a lot going on. it is a big day. we're going to be covering all of it starting at 10:00 eastern on monday, and then monday night i will be here for something we call "the rachel maddow" show, it is a big day, take your vitamins and get a good night's sleep. that does it for us, we'll see you again on monday morning at 10:00. now it is time for "the last word." have a great we
and president obama will attend church service that morning at 8:45 at st. john's church. he will have a closed meeting with congress. in terms of how you can follow along with what is happening on the big day on monday, i will anchor our coverage here at 10:00, with chris matthews, the reverend al sharpton, our coverage starting at 10:00, and vice president joe biden will are sworn in, at 11:55, president obama will be sworn in by chief justice john roberts, and the president will deliver his second inaugural address. there will be the singing of the national anthem, then by a person named beyonce who you may have heard of. there will be the signing ceremony, and of course, the parade. there is a lot going on. it is a big day. >>> at the retreat, the republicans are trying to figure out one of the hardest questions in all of politics. what do you do after you lose? >> all the talk about republicans on the ropes, conservatives and then retreat. we've come a long way since. >> and house gop leaders in virginia. >> getting advice on how to turn the party around. plotting their
, john roberts, he is going to make his way. >> the notecards are there. chief justice roberts loved the oath, and i thought that was interesting. here come the daughters, sasha and malia. looking spectacular in their coats. >> yesterday his youngesty his t daughter said daddy, you did not mess up. [laughter] >> the president obama started the morning with a little prayer service, interface from all kinds of spiritual leaders, reverend lyons sat down with chris wallace in recent days and gave a little bit of a sermon and talked about how in recent days he thinks the president has been almost pastor in chief dealing with tragedies such as the one in newtown, connecticut. trying to bring communities together their and president has an opportunity today to try to bring the country together. there will be a luncheon with congressional leaders after the swearing in his. you will see that giant stand behind me that has bulletproof glass, the president and first lady will review the parade. we are told that the president attended school there, play basketball, it was interesting to note tha
asked you why are you awake? producer john with the answer. >> i can't help but being skeevekd out, parasites. >> i can't help you with parasites. strip down, leave the house and don't ever return. "morning joe" starts right now. >> when i'm over here at the congressional picnic and folks are coming up and taking pictures with their family, i promise you, michelle and i are very nice to them, and we have a wonderful time, but it doesn't prevent them from going under the floor of the house and, you know, blasting me for being a big spending socialist. >> good morning, everyone. january 15th. it's raining out there. >> it's miserable. >> with us on set is msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. his outfit. >> what's up, mike? >> and former democratic congressman, harold ford junior. >> good morning. >> we'll do that later, alex. also, we have this obesity story, coca-cola making changes. i love that. >> they're putting more sugar in. >> no. do you know what they're doing? any know the story? >> yeah, i do. >> they're getting ready for the lawsuits? >> come on. helping america. coming up wi
second term administration. the president was officially sworn in by chief justice john roberts yesterday at the blue room at the white house as the first lady and the obama daughters looked on. but in the little less than two hours the president will affirm that oath before a much larger crowd with 100% more pomp and an equal proportion of circumstance. we have a stellar group of guests joining us throughout the day. honestly, to cut to the chase, it is pretty much everybody you know from msnbc. plus, visits with some members of the obama administration, folks from congress, we'll have live reports from the capitol and all along the parade route. and who knows what surprises along the way. it will be a fun day. reverend al sharpton and chris hayes are joining us onset as the day goes along. alongside me are melissa maris perry, ed schultz and the one and only chris matthews. mr. matthews, this is, i think of this as chris christmas. >> i think of the alternative it could be today. john bolden becoming secretary of state, the coke brothers up on the podium with donald trump, it is not tha
white house adviser. thanks. >> thanks. >>> next up, we will talk to senator john barrasso about where he sees areas of compromise. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! ♪ overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting
john roberts. ed, this time went off without a hitch. >> reporter: four years a little bit of a hiccup when roberts couldn't quite remember the oath. he had tried to memorize it. this time he brought note cards. he got it right. the president was teased by one of his daughters about him getting it right, as well. this as you say was history. 16th president to win election to two consecutive terms and be sworn in. now, they have all the ceremonial swearings tomorrow. this more intimate friend in the blue room, family and close friends. amid all the constitutional moments there was also a light family moment where a dad got to talk to his daughter, take a listen. >> thank you sir. [ applause ] >> i did it. all right. thank you everybody. >> reporter: i did it, he said and sasha said you didn't mess up. vice president biden got to try this out first very early this morning. reason why it was so early is that just sotomayor had to get on to a train to go to new york city to sign her books. she was trying to get to barnes & noble this afternoon in new york city. >> gregg: you got to plug th
up to the podium, is the president. we saw the first family walking in to st. john's church earlier this morning. >> they're at that worship service right now. there they are, right there, just before they walked into st. john's episcopal church, across the street from the white house. there's the first lady, and the president, sasha and malia, and the first lady's mom. luis leon is preaching on the theme of unity, which is also the president's theme. we'll see the president and first lady when they come out of that service, in just a little bit. first, let's talk to david muir. he's on the shadow of the steps of the capitol. and a lot of people gathering already. >> gathering here since the darkdar darkened hours before the sun came up. you talked about the choir of p.s. 22. you can see the capitol behind me, for those of you watching at home. the archway that the president will emerge from, about midway, at 11:30 this morning. his hand on the two bibles that george mentioned. applause for the children who traveled here all the way from new york. my producer, christine has the temp
republicans elected a white house screening of "lincoln" last month. had mitch mcconnell, john boehner, lamar alexander attended, they were all invited, they would have joined not only nancy pelosi, harry reid but steven spielberg, tommy lee jones. as tip o'neill famously said about his political foe, ronald reagan, love the sinner. hate the sin. when president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neill over to the white house for drinks and raise a glass to one another. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration 2013. here is hoping it spills over to the next four years and both sides of the aisle make a move to be more social and more civil. and, hence, more productive. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz, starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome "the ed show" from new york. republicans are raising the white flag. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> the republican game of chicken is over. eric cantore proposes a three-mo
john tower with all the answers. john. >> biff writes, armstrong, te'o, we can't trust anything anymore. the next thing we'll learn is that barnicle is a hologram. elliott, you're looking better already, and lighten up. life's not that serious. >> it's true life isn't that serious. next time i do the show, i'll do three things. i'll put my hand through mike barnicle. two, i'll do the entire program through body limericks and knock-knock jokes. and three -- "morning joe" starts right now. >>> we have a recording of a phone conversation between manti and his supposed girlfriend. i've got to be honest. i'm surprised manti didn't pick up on the hoax sooner. take a listen to this. >> hey, baby, what are you up to tonight? >> your call is very important. please listen carefully as the options have changed. >> yeah, i'm thinking i might stay in tonight. >> me, too. i plan on just chilling like a villain, laughing out loud. but seriously, i miss you. >> i mean, that right there, i could tell something was up. i don't know. >> friday, january 18th. good morning, everyone. i'm mike barnicle. i'm
:45 eastern time when he attends a service at st. john's episcopal church. at 10:45 he begins his journey from the white house to the capitol. the ceremony itself kicks off at 11:30 with the president taking the oath of office at 11:55. his inaugural address begins at noon followed by a luncheon in the capitol around 1:00 p.m. and then everybody heads out again for the inaugural parade. that's at 2:30. >> we have correspondents all over washington covering all of today's events including the president's inaugural address. we go first to major garrett at the white house who has new information about that speech. major, good morning. >> good morning, charlie and norah norah. president obama did not divulge much about that speech but in playful moment with the first lady he did confront a pressing issue that has been dominating the headlines. >> it is my distinct honor and pleasure to welcome the love of my life and our president for the next four years, barack obama. >> to address the most significant event of this weekend, i love her bangs. she looks good. she alw
campaign. and republican strategist john fehrig. good to have you here. >> good morning. >> just listening to the mayor talk there really draws the, i guess, pulls the veil back on exactly what is being discussed here when it comes to common sense approaches to just even background checks and the from the right. how the president and the administration is shifting gears for organization for action. take a look. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. >> right. >> it's time to turn that loose for something more than just an election. right? if the nra's got a list, then obama for america has a bigger list. >> all right. so jen, you know firsthand exactly what it looks like to be a part of that campaign operation. give us the insider details of how this is really going to work when it's not a campaign-style approach for re-election, but a campaign-style approach to get america to support gun control legislation. >> well, thomas, i think everybody in the obama orbit, people in the building, but people who are supporters from the outs
have needed selma? if john lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge? >> i have to tell you -- >> karen, listen, this is disgusting. first of all, it's not original -- >> rush is now -- it sounds like he's trying to be a member of the black panthers. this is ridiculous. >> well, there's that irony as well. but it's not original. he's taking it from the comments from the other right wing nut job who was talking about if slaves had guns. first of all, there are plenty of shotgun owners during the civil rights era, but to reduce john lewis' service to this country and the civil rights movement and the black experience and the overall american experience in this country to him getting beat upside the head is disgusting and offensive. this is a man who served his country through civil rights and through service in the congress. to reduce his life to that to me is unacceptable. >> i agree. as you may know, i actually went with john lewis on his annual pilgrimage. we crossed the bridge in selma, heard the stories from him. the other thing that's so infuriatin
and why you're awake. of course, john tower, what do you got for us? >> we have karen. i'm coming down to the dubliner to hang out, get my chuck todd button ready. >> you know these chuck todd buttons. heard a lot of chat about this. never seen one. never seen anyone wearing one. kind of taking on their own mythological life of their own. great show everyone. "morning joe" starts live now from the dubliner. >>> good morning, and welcome to a special edition of "morning joe" on this monday january the 21st. we are live, once again, from the dubliner in washington, d.c. president barack obama's second-term inauguration. we have a remarkable crowd here. some people coming as far as ireland to be with us. they're already drinking outside. >> it's very very friendly crowd, i'll tell you that much. >> very friendly. >> now as mandated by the constitution, the president was officially sworn in to office on january 20th less than 24 hours ago. chief justice john roberts administered the oath during a private ceremony at the white house. unlike four years ago, they got it right
justice john roberts will uses a note card to avoid the same oath snafu that happened to him last time. >> 102%. >> i'll bet you. >> i'll bet you. i will bet you a quarter. >> i bet he doesn't. >> this will be the second president in american history who takes the oath of office four times -- >> after fdr. >> this guy had two, the original one and the re-do, first term, today, and tomorrow, four times. >> barnes & noble gets a big scheduling tip of the hat for signing the memoir on the day of the swearing-in. >> is it really out of barnes & noble? >> yes! >> you are the big supreme court -- what if the justices started wearing advertisements on their robes, like nascar drivers -- barnes & noble, lennox china -- >> i like it. >> i will tell you what happened. >> i want to hear! >> i boarded my flight last night to come down here. they hold using, saying they are not ready. we are standing here, ready to get on. it wasn't that they weren't ready. justice sotomayor walks in front of everybody because she's a supreme court justice and they get her on the ?riet as they do with any supreme c
. this gimmick is the only thing republicans have up their sleeves right now. john boehner told everyone two years ago the country would not default on its debt. >> do you agree with administration officials and other economists that defaulting on the full faith and credit of the united states would be a financial disaster? >> that would be a financial disaster, not only for our country, but for the worldwide economy. >> and president obama reminded congress the economic damage done by playing games with the debt limit. >> the last time republicans in congress even flirted with this idea, our aaa credit rating was downgraded for the first time in our history. our businesses created the fewest jobs of any month in nearly the past three years and, ironically, the whole fiasco actually added to the deficit. >> republicans basically had no choice but to retreat from their hard line position, negotiating with the american people. if the country defaulted, they would be responsible for a global economic collapse. the new plan for a three-month increase guarantees another debate in the next few mon
congress. >> horrible numbers for congress. >> a pitiful 14%. >> pretty bad numbers on john boehner's report card. >> the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. >> i don't see that as a winner for them. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party. >> let's stop for a second. >> let's make clear decisions. >> the republican strategy. >> stop talking about rape. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party, get something done. >> we have to be the party of new solutions, we're not just going to be the party of no. >> it is groundhog day. >> the conservatives, the retreat, we've come a long way since. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell, one of the great moments, when redford having just won the election, sits down on the bed taking it all in. the next few words are not just to ever film junky, pretty much to every political candidate. >> what do we do now? >> what do we do now? that is always the question, what do you do now when you have to govern? but it is not just a question that affects winners, sometimes losers
want to bring in joe johns. he's also working his sources. what are you hearing, joe? >> well, we've got the fbi, the alcohol, tobacco, firearms bureau and others converging on the scene and we're told there are about five different local agencies surrounding the woods there looking for that one shooter who apparently has not been identified. as ed reported, this sounds very different, wolf, from the types of situations we've seen aurora, colorado, newtown, connecticut, and other places where one individual went in indiscriminately and started shooting. this appears to be an altercation between two people in a school setting which makes it sound like more like the things we've seen at public schools and major metropolitan areas and some other universities where police have to start asking questions, was it drug-related, was it gang-related, was this a score settling of any type? these are the types of questions. and congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas who represents this area, harris county, texas, was asked that question and sort of restated it on air a while ago but we dou
't do it. >> if john boehner and mitch mcconnell think they can come up with a plan that somehow meets their criteria they set, they are free on go ahead and try. >> republicans still believe the president will blink and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn yesterday. >> i think there is a way to avoid default. if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's look at that. >> yesterday the president sounded almost resign to the idea a government shutdown is probably coming up. >> if the republicans in congress made a decision they want to shouldn't down the government in order to get their way, then they have the -- votes at least in the house of representatives probably to do that. i think that would be a mistake. and it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. >> once again, what the white house was trying to signal on debt
. >> in his later years. we have to keep that in account. >> in his later years he was almost killed by john hinckley. >> all through his presidency he opposed gun control. that's my point. senator j. rockefeller on the other side of the aisle owns an ar-15. we talked to many legislators which own those type of firearms. that's the very point. these are guns which are commonly owned. men and women would want to use these types of firearms to protect their homes. they have much less fire power than your average deer rifle. >> i want to challenge also your polling data, because the pugh poll said 57% of americans, a clear majority, oppose having armed guards in schools. >> this was gallup from last month. you can check that out. >> depends how the question is asked. >> yes, it does. pugh has been well known for that. gallup calls it straight. what do you think is the most important problem facing the country, this was an open ended question at the top, economy in general at 21%, goes down to the federal budget deficit, dissatisfaction with government, unemployment, taxes, all the way at the bo
, if john boehner and mitch mcconnell think that they can come up with a plan that somehow meets their criteria that they've set for why they will -- when they will raise the debt ceiling, they're free to go ahead and try. but the proposals that they've put forward in order to accomplish that -- only by cutting spending -- means cuts to things like medicare and education that the american people profoundly reject. now, if they think that they can get that through congress, then they're free to try. but i think that a better way of doing this is go ahead and say, we're going to pay our bills. the question now is how do we actually get our deficit in a manageable, sustainable way? and that's a conversation i'm happy to have. all right. matt spetalnick. >> thank you, sir. you've spoken extensively about the debt ceiling debate, but some republicans have further said that they're willing to allow a government shutdown to take place rather than put off deep spending cuts. are you prepared to allow the government to grind to a halt if you disagree with the spending cut proposals they p
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